Friday, March 11, 2011

Heretics and Hell

A couple of weeks ago Rob Bell, pastor at Mars Hill Bible Church, was trending on Twitter because of a promotional piece his publisher put out in advance of his new book. His book is called, “Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, And The Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived”. You can check out the video promo for the book here.

Then it all went down. Without even have read the book, one blogger with a wide readership questioned whether or not Rob Bell is a universalist, another prominent pastor with thousands of followers sent out a tweet simply saying “Farewell Rob Bell”, and then it went viral in more ways than one. One person after another lining up to call Bell a heretic only to be met with equally strong opposition from those who support Bell.

Hashtag’s tell the story well: #robbell #universalist #heretic

If you are unfamiliar with what universalism is, go here to see Scot McKnight’s helpful summary.

A few questions the whole Rob Bell thing has raised for me.

1. What is a heretic?
Rob has been called a heretic because of the apparent content of his new book. Trust me, anyone who has ever preached, written, and had any public role in trying to talk about things of faith has been labeled a heretic by someone else. The word is so commonly used that it really doesn’t mean anything anymore. But what is a heretic? I don’t mean by Webster’s standard. I know the definition. It is technically someone who steps outside of orthodox beliefs in a particular field and in a religious setting it obviously means someone who holds beliefs contrary to those of the Church. But this raises way more questions for me.

First, who is “the church” that sets these beliefs? There aren’t councils anymore. In fact there are thousands of denominations, and thousands of sects within those denominations that would have nuanced doctrinal assumptions and beliefs. Which technically means every Christian is a heretic to someone else.

Secondly, what is “orthodox” to begin with? You would think that Christians may agree on this one, but they don’t. I believe this is the real issue behind the other issues. There are three levels to Christian belief and practice. The first is Core beliefs. These are very few and are those beliefs and doctrinal assumptions that are foundational to Christianity and cannot be argued. They are the essential truths of the gospel. Take these away and there is no more good news. I would suggest that these are what should be labeled as orthodox. Some examples of this might be that Jesus is the Son of God, the resurrection, and maybe just a few others. The next level out are Convictions. These convictions are based in the scriptures and can be defended by pointing to particular passages. However, there is room for disagreement with convictions since these issues seem to be rooted in interpretive assumptions. Some examples of convictions would be the exercise of spiritual gifts (speaking in tongues), old earth/new earth debates, women in leadership and ministry, etc… There is a ton of room for movement and freedom in interpretation and practice of these doctrines and convictions. Then the last level out is Preferences. These are based on cultural and personal taste. I like rock and roll and prefer electric guitars in songs. Some like organs. Neither is right or wrong. Some prefer stained glass, others warehouses. Again, preference.

So our beliefs and doctrinal assumption and practice fall into these categories:

Core – Absolute essential truth. Orthodox. Only a few things.

Convictions – Not core but important to your particular denomination or strain of Christian practice. Can be defended biblically but can be argued against biblically as well.

Preferences – Simply a matter of taste. Wide ranging.

So where does “universalism” fall into this continuum? I would suggest it falls into the convictions realm. It can be defended and can be spoken against using the same scriptures. You have some of the early church fathers who would have been known as universalist and some who were not. Throughout the centuries of the church there have been God-fearing, Jesus loving people on both sides of this issue.

What happens is that most people make their Preferences and Convictions the main point. They invert the categories and make the issues that aren’t core, core. Which makes it much easier to throw out the label of heretic against anyone who doesn’t hold their same convictions or even preferences.

So really it is simply a question of what belongs in the Core. My assumption is that an eternal hell, in which the person is conscious, has moved from the realm of Conviction to being Core for many people. Even though there have been countless years of debate and good theological defense on both sides of this particular issue.

So to be honest, when someone labels someone else a heretic I don’t really react anymore at all. The phrase is sort of vanilla now since all it really means anymore is, “They don’t share my convictions.” Which, in turn, means that anyone outside of your very select doctrinal assumptions could be labeled a heretic.

Quite a convenient way to navigate your theological path.


2. Why do we love hell so much?

The other issue the whole Rob Bell flap has raised for me is why some Christians seem to love the idea of hell. In fact, I know some people who actually seem to want hell, not just out of biblical convictions, but there seems to be some personal satisfaction taken in knowing that “those bad people” will spend eternity suffering for the few years of sin on this earth.

I remember hearing NT Wright say once that every Christian ought to want to be a universalist whether you felt like you could affirm it theologically or not. I completely agree. I may not be able to disavow the reality of judgment and hell painted in the Scriptures but shouldn’t my hearts desire, as one who has received grace, ought to always lead me to desiring grace for everyone else?

If God “is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.” (2 Peter 3.9) then shouldn’t that be our desire as well? I actually get the idea every now and then that some Christians actually get a bit angry at the thought of someone whom they have judged to have lived a particularly heinous life, actually repenting and receiving grace and forgiveness.

But our hope is in a God that is gracious and forgiving beyond measure (Psalm 103) and the God of the Scriptures is described as a God who has mercy and that “mercy triumphs over judgment” (James 2.13).

And yes, I know all the other passages that describe God as a just God. And I know that Jesus talks about hell. I am not saying I ignore those passages, only that I take no delight in them and simple explanations of them don’t do justice to the complexities surrounding the issues.

So I’ll just say I hate hell. I hate the idea of it. I hate the thought of it. And I find it paradoxical for someone to call themselves a Christian and be comfortable, even happy, with the idea of hell.

As one who loves the church and believes so deeply in Christ work through her, I fear that some of us want hell for others as much as we want heaven for ourselves.

16 comments:

Jen Sheaffer said...

Thanks Jason. Good post to ponder. I'm thinking you should be working on a book!

Barb said...

Hi Jason,
It's a sad commentary on the Church, but you nailed it with your closing statement.
To take it even further, I think some Christians, albeit immature ones, take delight in others' failings, esp when they are not THEIR personal sins. You know, others' sins are so much more serious and deserving of judgment than mine.
God help us to see ourselves and others as God Himself sees us - recepients of His love and amazing grace. And then leave the judging to Him.
Barb

Timothy said...

You always have intriguing things to say, and I greatly appreciate your balanced perspectives.

Reading this has been cool water to an arid tongue. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts.

Miki said...

I totally agree with your assessment. The concept of Hell as eternal, conscious torture should be devastating to all believers. I have often said to people, "if you were to see a dog on your sidewalk being kicked and beaten by his owner, would you just sit there and watch?" I feel the answer for most would be "NO!" But we as Christians have become too comfortable with the "Hell is for those bad people who deserve it" concept. I hope and pray with everything in me that there is no literal torture for all eternity for those lost. It deeply grieves me.

Anonymous said...

i'm sure "heretic" rob will sell a lot of books ..$$$...so what your are saying is that there are really not that many authentic christians?....

keri

Sarah said...

Yes! Thank you! Tim and I have been talking about hell a lot lately. We hate hell, too, but it seems that most times we bring up our current struggles with it, our Christian friends just become "concerned" for us. Thank you for putting your thoughts/studies in words. I so appreciate reading them.

GaGodChaser said...

Jason
I haven't read Rob's book either. I didn't really understand all the flap. Living in the deep south I am accustomed to this sort of thing.
I have no idea what his theology is like, I only know that the videos I have seen have left a lasting and powerful impression. One thing I know for sure, is that we Christians should weep when we think of those we know and love spending eternity in Hell. I would love to think that in the end that love wins and that all will bow down and confess that Jesus is not Lord, but their Lord. Sadly, I don't think that will be the case. I can't say that I would wish Hell on anyone. Neither could God, that's why He built a bridge that all men could cross. I am reminded of the prophet Jeremiah, who wept over the judgement of God.
We know God to be just. We know that His Word is true. We have to trust that there really is a Hell, because He tells us there is; but we shouldn't wish anyone to go there. We should do everything in our power to spread the Word that a way of escape has been made. It is the man, Jesus Christ.
I intend to read the book and decide for myself, which is exactly what I did in the case of "The Shack". I got a lot of flack for it but I still garnered a lot from it.
Thanks for the post.
Blessings
Allen

Matt C said...

The thing about Rob Bell that is hard for some people is that his perspective on things is different, he sees things from an angle that others would never even think about. Rob's way of thinking is at times very uncomfortable and sometimes makes me squirm but it never fails to make me think, to examine my beliefs and pray. Just because Rob or David Ashcraft or anyone else says something doesn't make it truth and just because their beliefs about some things veer from what I believe doesn't mean everything they say is a lie. Rob's books are just a tool to help us better understand, not the truth in and of themselves.

alastair blake peters said...
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alastair blake peters said...

Not sure what rob bell's view is, but in thinking about Hell, I have found this article interesting and helpful. What do you all think?
http://www.redeemer.com/news_and_events/articles/the_importance_of_hell.html

Anonymous said...

Благодарю за информацию действительно увлекательно, однако меня также интересуют и новости голографии. Надо же развиваться в области голографии

Pastor Rob said...

I have always had trouble with Bell's teachings. Some things are very insightful and thought provoking while others are just lacking. Take Velvet Elvis. Not a bad book per say but full of postmodern fluff. There are many books out there that communicate much better what he was trying to say. This new book however has some real issues. Bell has removed the idea of Hell being eternal and in doing so he also must change the meaning of John 3:16. Here eternal life would mean, "life for an age." That seems to lose the hope and good news. I believe hell is not just a conviction doctrine. And when removed from core teaching it would fall into preferences. I don't like the idea of an eternal separation from God due to sin, so I prefer to change how I interpret hell and God's love and mercy and justice. Bell also misrepresents church history grossly so it becomes easier to show his view as not leaving orthodox teaching. Just my thoughts. Thanks for your blog. I have enjoyed reading several of your posts.

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure i would make heaven and hell a core belief, not just a conviction.

But I also am pretty sure God hates hell too, and is deeply saddened that people spend eternity there...

MDA

tracy said...

causes me to wonder what all went down after Jesus opened his mouth... talk about different perspective!

controversy is healthy and gives us an opportunity to explore the unexpected. Fine exploration Jason!

Aaron said...

I'm new at LCBC so I started trolling the internet and found your Blog (Love it). Although I like most of Bell's ideas, I do not agree with this particular doctrine. Emotionally I love the idea, but Biblically I cannot find a way. I hate the idea of hell, but unfortunately hermeneutical principles do not present the most probable interpretations of a passage as the one that best harmonizes with our feelings. Although I love to see Christ followers tackling the hard questions, personal feelings seem to find themselves on both sides of the argument and cloud the real issues. (starting with the guy who called Bell a heretic).

The first question you ask is, “what is a heretic.” You conclude that it means, “They don’t share my convictions. Which, in turn, means that anyone outside of your very select doctrinal assumptions could be labeled a heretic.” Although this definition seems to add breadth to heretic's semantic range, it does not represent the Usus Loquendi of the term heritic, thus, it misrepresent what the person, or persons were actually trying to convey about Bell. A heretic is a pejorative term used to discredit someone (As Saint Irenaeus did to Saint Haereses in the 2nd century by using propaganda to turn the Church Contra Haereses – Against Haereses - heresy).

As you rightly point out, there are major differences between beliefs held within convictions, preference, and core values. Beliefs held within convictions and preference point us towards different denominations, whereas beliefs in Core Values changes the very God in which we worship. Although you may have given a referent meaning to heretic, it was not the correct contextual meaning. The contextual meaning is that Bell is “changing the very God in which I worship” (from the person's perspective, not mine). The connotation is that “to do so, Bell can no longer call himself a Christian” (from the person's perspective, not mine). This has nothing to do with Guitars/Organs or Male/Female Leadership. Our understanding changes the very way in which we worship and live out our Christian lives.

We need to allow our arguments to stand on their own merit, not by misrepresenting the opponent's view. Pejorative statements and ad hominem reasoning on both sides of the hell argument do not help us find “truth in love.” There is a huge difference between mistakenly putting convictions and preferences into core values, then attempting to take core values and putting them into convictions and preferences. The deity of Christ has been argued by scholars for centuries, but if I put the deity of Christ into preferences or convictions, I am no longer considered a Christian, I am a Jehovah’s Witness. When Bell was called a heretic, (even though it made me mad) it wasn't because someone was questioning preferences (guitar or organ), or convictions (male or female pastor), they were fighting for Core Values.

Finally, the classification you presented could be designed more tightly (suggestion: Apodictic Law for Core values, Caustic Law for convictions, and Traditions for preferences). The definitions of heretic, orthodox, and church seemed forced and somewhat of a stretch. Since most of your argument rest on these definitions, your point tends to crumble. Be careful, slight of hand theology uses emotions in one hand to distract the reader, while the other hand tucks truth, growth, and understanding up his sleeve. We cannot afford to read our presuppositions, prejudices and preunderstandings into the Bible, because exegesis will soon turns to eisegesis.

Anonymous said...

Here us an excellent review of Rob Bell's book.

http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/files/2011/03/LoveWinsReview.pdf